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4 RL U GUIZ by SiogaAgusArrachtaigh 4 RL U GUIZ by SiogaAgusArrachtaigh
I guess it's kind of a counter stamp to this one here:[link]

Since the person who made the stamp is a whiny bitch who throws a fit when proven wrong(and because my patience for morons has run dangerously thin), I chose not to argue with the person directly. I've already tried that. her head is too far up her ass to listen to anyone elses opinions. :roll:

Anyways, the fact that people honestly believe that straight people can turn gay, but gay people can't turn straight, obviously have no clue how sexuality works.

Sexuality is a fluid thing and has the tendency to change over time. Not by brainwashing or any of that bullshit. And as far as I'm concerned, there is no fucking 'gay gene' that decides a persons sexuality either(not always, anyways).
It also has a lot to do with a combination of hormonal, environmental, and genetic factors, and anybody with a lick of sense knows that these things can change over a matter of time. Sometimes even just one of these factors is influential enough to override the other two.

That being said, this does not mean that I support organizations designed to turn people straight, like Exodus International. Hell, I'm pretty sure even the person who founded Exodus stated that their methods didn't work.
What I'm saying is, just because a couple people who claimed to turn straight, suddenly reverted back, doesn't mean this is the case with everybody. Some people have had a legitimate change in sexuality.

Either way, as I told this moron a few days ago, you don't know most of these people. You don't know how they came to the point where their sexuality changed, you have no evidence that they where 'brainwashed' or any of that other bullshit, so, unless you know these individuals personally, then you have no right to judge.

Feel free to agree, disagree, whatever. I really don't give a shit at this point.

Related(and also the stamp that my argument was started on): [link]
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
I can't watch Youtube videos.
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:icongeneralobiwankenobi7:
Generalobiwankenobi7 Featured By Owner May 9, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Then there's also something as an "ex-heterosexual" as well.
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
Technically, yeah.
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:icongeneralobiwankenobi7:
Generalobiwankenobi7 Featured By Owner May 18, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Homosexuality isn't the disease people think it is.
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
SiogaAgusArrachtaigh Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2015
No sexuality is a disease. A disease would imply that one's orientation is fatal or harmful to the person in some way, and anybody who thinks gay people are a disease probably aren't all that bright. :P
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:icongeneralobiwankenobi7:
Generalobiwankenobi7 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very true. Most people under that impression are woefully misinformed or blindingly hateful.
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
Sometimes a little bit of both.
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:icongeneralobiwankenobi7:
Generalobiwankenobi7 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Also true.
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:icondragonslayers-mate:
DragonSlayers-Mate Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
There really isnt =-= you are either gay or you are not. Its one thing to think you are gay but if you are more comfortable with the opposite sex then you are straight, not 'ex gay hurr'
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
I know plenty of ex-gays who would like to say otherwise.
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:icondragonslayers-mate:
DragonSlayers-Mate Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
And id like to tell them to stop giving christians another reason to oppress us :3

I used to be straight, im gay now, that does NOT mean im 'ex straight' it just means im gay lol
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
Yeah because everything is the Christians fault. :roll:

So then just don't call yourself ex-straight. If somebody else wants to call themselves an ex-gay then what business is it of yours?
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
Responding here because DragonSlayers-Mate blocked me like a little bitch:

Except they didn't "pray their gay away?" It was a gradual thing just like any natural change in sexuality? What are you even trying to prove with this comment?

I'm being a bigot because I feel like it's none of your goddamned business what other people decide to label themselves? "People like you", yeah, because one stamp you disagree with means you know everything about me. I want gay rights to be legalized too, you presumptuous ass, I'm not straight myself.
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:icondragonslayers-mate:
DragonSlayers-Mate Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
ok i'll admit it's not JUST Christians faults it's at the fault of all abrahamic religions including islam and judaism. but it DOES give reason for them to say "hurp a derp you can pray your gay away so do it now you unclean sinful morons!!' 

BUT i see now why you're being such a pain :3 so i'll let your bigoted self alone~ i just hope people like you get over yourselves when gay rights are legalized everywhere VwV
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:iconwritinchica2k:
writinchica2k Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
No, no, no, no, no, and NO. Why is this website full of COMPLETE AND UTTER FUCKING IDIOTS?
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:iconkurosantchi:
Kurosantchi Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It can change. Think about it. People are always whining about how gays don't have enough rights and yet everyone is defending them CONSTANTLY. And when someone mentions ex-gays? People treat them like the worst people ever. It's hypocritical. Do gay people deserve to be insulted and told they are not real? Ex-gays have feelings to. Ex-gays are the most misunderstood minority in my opinion. It's sickening how much hatred and claims that they don't exist there is.
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:iconwritinchica2k:
writinchica2k Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Maybe because the 'ex-gay' movement doesn't fucking work? There's already been enough research to prove it, but facts and logic are not PC according to this generation.
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
You're hardly one to talk about this sight being full of idiots. I hate to break it to you but you're actually pretty famous on this site for being a stupid, immature fuckwad. :| Practically nobody takes you seriously. So, fuck off?
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:iconwritinchica2k:
writinchica2k Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh my god, shut up, seriously, just shut up. It's phobic idiots like you that make me want to kill myself. But then, what does another dead queer matter to you, huh?

Ps, it's "site".
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
Oh my god, shut up, seriously, just shut up.
YOU'RE the one starting shit on MY page, honey. The only one in any position to be shutting up right now is YOU.

It's phobic idiots like you that make me want to kill myself. But then, what does another dead queer matter to you, huh?
If THIS makes you want to kill yourself then you have much bigger issues than one random asshole on the Internet you barely even know. I'm not exactly hetero myself, dipshit. And I STILL have the good sense to understand that sexuality is not as fucking black and white as you seem to think it is.

Ps, it's "site".
And? I made a typo, whoopee shit. :roll:
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
Replying to my own comment because writinchica2k blocked me like the butthurt crybaby she is.

YOU are the one who started this whole damn situation in the first place, so fuck off. I will fucking call you 'honey' or any other name I see fit if I feel like it, HONEY. If I'm a horrible person it's only because whiny dipshits like you make me that way. :|
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:iconwritinchica2k:
writinchica2k Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
YOU started shit by making this stamp, and do NOT fucking call me 'honey' or any other condescending name you may have in your vocabulary. You are a hypocrite and a horrible person of the highest order.
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:iconsilversongwriter:
silversongwriter Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2014
fuck all the haters... they are hypocrites... they need you to prove it, but don't feel like backing anything up themselves.
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
I know right? I guess they just expect people to take their word for it. :lol:
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:iconcrazy-eel:
Crazy-Eel Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
It saddens me when people so vehemently deny that people can be ex-gay, or ex-LGBT, to be somewhat more broad. Considering they don't know the people who changed, isn't their denial run on bias?

I guess I understand why they don't want to consider that possibility that people can change. It would undermine the entire movement.
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
SiogaAgusArrachtaigh Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014
What's even more fun is being labeled a homophobe when people find out you acknowledge that ex-gay's that aren't "in denial" actually exist. Gotta love people. OTZ

Calling them "ex-gay" probably isn't helping. There really needs to be a better word for that sort of thing. |D
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:iconcrazy-eel:
Crazy-Eel Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Oh people. -_-

Just use the word "straight" again, maybe?
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
SiogaAgusArrachtaigh Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2014
Maybe, some some of them didn't become solidly hetero either.
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:iconcrazy-eel:
Crazy-Eel Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Shrug The spectrum is confusing.
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
SiogaAgusArrachtaigh Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2014
It really is. How can anybody keep track with all of it??
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:iconvanuinfiltrator:
VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Do you have proof?
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
I'm going by psychology and personal experience.
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:iconvanuinfiltrator:
VanuInfiltrator Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Do you have any written documentation for proof?
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:iconsilversongwriter:
silversongwriter Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2014
You got any documentation they don't exist... or are you gonna be like most liberal hypocratites and say, "I don't need to, the burden of proof is on you"
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
Not at the moment. I don't think the concept has been around long enough for people do do actual studies on it. :grump:
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:iconbriannabater:
Briannabater Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014  Professional Photographer
Soo... you're going by "psychology," but you don't think there have been any studies?

Well, there have been.  Lots, actually, mostly focused on forced conversion therapies to "cure" gay people.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversi…
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
There haven't been any studies outside of fluid sexuality on people who's sexualities go through changes WITHOUT any outside help. Conversion therapy is bullshit anyways.
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:iconglassbottledemon:
GlassBottleDemon Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
No, there's only grave denial.
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
Nope.
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:iconglassbottledemon:
GlassBottleDemon Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
See, you're already doing it. Good start.
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
Doing what?
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:iconglassbottledemon:
GlassBottleDemon Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
All you're saying is 'no'.
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
... So? I hope you weren't expecting some long philosophical rant or something because you're not getting one.
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:iconglassbottledemon:
GlassBottleDemon Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
See my other comment.
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:iconkittycreator:
KittyCreator Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Sexuality isn't a choice.
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:iconchiminix:
Chiminix Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I half agree. Theoretically, it's usually an adaptation brought on by early experiences such as abuse, misinformation, or even your early perception of sex and your own body. However it started, it is possible to overcome it given the right amount of will and determination. The mind is so much more capable of what we think it is.
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:iconkittycreator:
KittyCreator Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I suppose so.. 
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:iconsiogaagusarrachtaigh:
I'm aware of that. :U
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:iconkittycreator:
KittyCreator Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014  Student Digital Artist
There is no such thing as a "ex gay" in my opinion
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